Jacobin Show: When Does Culture Matter? w/ Vivek Chibber
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🗓️ 10 February 2022
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Professor Vivek Chibber discusses his new book, The Class Matrix, and the role that culture plays (and doesn’t play) in keeping workers from overturning an exploitative capitalist system. Paul Prescod debunks a new "pro-worker" proposal from Republicans to create workplace alternatives to unions, and Jen Pan takes a look at the various causes of the Great Resignation.
The Jacobin Show, hosted by Jen Pan, offers socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the podcast version of the show from February 9, 2022.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, you are watching the Jacobin Show. I'm your host, Jen Pan. I am very excited |
| 0:24.7 | for today's show. Our guest is Vivek Chipper, who has just published a new book called The Class Matrix. |
| 0:31.5 | I am going to be speaking to him in just a little bit about a class formation and other |
| 0:37.2 | exciting topics that he covers in the book. What we should make of culture and how culture plays |
| 0:43.2 | into why workers do and don't rise up against capitalism. I'm also going to be making some comments |
| 0:50.8 | about the great resignation in a little bit. But for now, I actually want to just dive straight |
| 0:57.2 | into talking to our first guest because you know him very, very well. That's right. It is Paul |
| 1:03.7 | Prescott, aka Labour Paul, aka my former co-host, always the good cop to my bad cop. Paul has not been |
| 1:12.4 | busy at all and has nothing else going on at the moment. So I thought I would ask him to appear |
| 1:16.9 | on today's show. So Paul, how are you? Good. It's great to be back. Yeah, I've just been chilling. |
| 1:23.4 | I wonder why I'm not on the show anymore. Just chilling. Nothing going on at all. |
| 1:28.1 | Well, since you have nothing going on, I thought maybe you could come on the show to talk about |
| 1:34.0 | some new legislation that some Republicans are trying to push forward. So we've been hitting the |
| 1:39.1 | Democrats pretty hard on the show for the last couple of episodes, of course, for good reason. |
| 1:44.3 | But it's finally time to give the Republicans their due. So what I want to talk about is a new |
| 1:50.5 | bill that is being pushed forward by Marco Rubio and Representative Jim Banks. It is called the |
| 1:56.5 | Teamwork for Employees and Managers, aka the Team Act of 2022. And I want to read a line from |
| 2:02.8 | their press release that I think summarizes what this bill is trying to do. So in the press release, |
| 2:08.0 | they write, if it becomes law, the Team Act will allow management and workers to establish non-union |
| 2:14.8 | employee involvement organizations, also called EIOs, to discuss workplace issues of mutual interest. |
| 2:22.1 | All right. So Paul, I know that you really don't like this bill at all. And I want to ask you about |
| 2:26.2 | that because this bill isn't really trying to ban unions or outlaw them. The bill is really just |
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