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Jacobin Show: Debate! On Ukraine & Ideology w/ Slavoj Žižek

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🗓️ 31 March 2022

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Summary

Eric Levitz and Branko Marcetic debate how the left in the US should understand and respond to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Slavoj Žižek and Vivek Chibber debate the role of ideology in promoting capitalist stability.


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The Jacobin Show offers socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the podcast version of the show from March 30, 2022.

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0:00.0

We'll see you in the next video.

0:28.5

Hey everyone, welcome to Jacobin Show. It's me, producer Kale. Typically, you

0:35.0

would be seeing Jen right now, but Jen is off this week. She'll be back next week.

0:40.2

But boy oh boy, do we have a show for you? Because it is debate night. We got two

0:46.6

rounds for you. I think you're going to enjoy both of them. First up, we have Eric

0:50.5

Levitts versus Bronco Market Teach. They'll be discussing what the appropriate

0:54.4

left response to the invasion of Ukraine should be. They both were in some

0:57.7

articles where they've hashed out some of their differences. I hope this video

1:01.2

actually furthers that discussion. Then we got Slavoj Zizek versus

1:06.3

Vivek Chibber on the role of ideology and capitalism. Vivek has a new book out

1:10.7

that we've covered on the show before. You should check out that interview. But I've

1:14.5

thought it would be a good idea to put him in conversation with one of the people

1:17.1

who has done the most ideological critique against capitalism in the past few

1:20.8

decades. So buckle in and enjoy the show. As the brutal Russian invasion of

1:27.4

Ukraine has now got into its second month, the American left has produced a

1:31.4

number of responses to the situation. Much has been made of both the Russian

1:35.3

ruling classes aggression and the American ruling classes geopolitical

1:39.1

interests in Eastern Europe, as well as what is the most appropriate means to

1:43.2

achieve peace in the war and the region broadly. But this has provoked a number

1:47.8

of criticisms and responses. Most of them have been pretty dismissive, but

1:51.5

easily the most thoughtful has come from New York magazine's Eric Levitts in a

1:56.3

piece titled The Left Has Half-Baked Answers on Ukraine. So to go into this, we

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