Hey everyone, welcome back to the Jacobin Show.

I'm Jen Pan here with Paul Prescott.

We were actually off last week, so happy to be back of course with Paul.

Who apparently can't hear, so we'll try to figure that out.

But in the meantime, I just want to mention, of course, we've got a great show today.

Marianne Williamson, the one and only Marianne Williamson, who of course ran for president in 2020,

but is also a national best-selling author and activist, is going to be joining us a little later to talk about

basically the horrors of capitalism and what kinds of campaigns she's getting involved in today,

what she makes of the Biden administration, and basically how we move forward

post-2020 when the left is kind of on the back foot.

And we're also getting Matt Brunig, who is of course the founder and president of the People's

Policy Project. He's been on the show before to talk about the welfare state, how we build a better

one, what it looks like in other countries. He's going to be joining us in a little bit as well

for a kind of mini interview to talk about Biden's new child tax credit and kind of the good and

bad of it. But what I'm really excited to talk to him about is kind of the difference between

what he calls poor people benefits and the difference between those and welfare benefits,

which of course in the US have historically been one and the same. But I think he makes a pretty

compelling argument for why we should think about breaking the link between those two things.

And I just want to mention that his article is published in Jacobin under the title,

let's make the US a welfare nation. You can also find it on his website, which of course is People's

Policy Project. So I guess while we are waiting for Paul to re-enter the chat, there is something

that I wanted to, well, there's something that I want that I've been thinking about for kind of a

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