This is Jacobin Radio, I'm producer director and engineer Melissa Figueroa, sitting

in for Susie Weissman.

This week we feature a conversation, first featured on truth dig between Susie, Mark Cooper

and Pablo Opal Foam, featuring Mark Cooper's dig on Chile with the great title Utopia

postponed.

Having a stab at Utopia is a good description of the dramatic political events in Chile

in the recent period.

Mark Cooper and Pablo Opal Foam integrate the legacy of the military coup 50 years ago

with a discussion on the present challenges for the leftist government of Gabrielle

Boric.

Just a year in power, the Boric presidency suffered a huge defeat in the May 7th election

for a new constitutional council signalling the probable death knell for a progressive

constitution in Chile and the emergence of a powerful far right.

Susie gets Mark and Pablo's account of how a political agenda that began with a focus

on environmental, economic and social justice got ensnared in debates about crime, immigration

and inflation.

Stay tuned for this important conversation when our program returns in just a moment.

Hi, I'm Sway Kaufman, publisher and CEO of truth dig.

Welcome to our event, Perspectives for Social Justice in Chile 50 years after the Pinot

Shake who, which is part of our investigative dig curated by Mark Cooper titled Chile's

Utopia has been postponed.

Now Mark Cooper has been a writer and a journalist for more than 50 years, reporting on politics

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