Jacobin Radio: Paul Mason and George Kerevan on Brexit

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🗓️ 17 September 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Suzi talks to Paul Mason on Brexit and George Kerevan on Brexit in Scotland — to unravel the complexities and many political-economic ramifications of the issue. The Brexit crisis is as consuming for the United Kingdom as Trump is for the United States. Paul Mason calls it "Brexhaustion," and says chaos is being normalized … albeit manufactured. The daily ins and outs are confusing, especially to outside spectators, but we shed light on this now constitutional crisis with British journalist and writer Paul Mason, and with political economist, journalist, and former SNP MP George Kerevan, who fills us in on the Scottish case by framing for us just how the United Kingdom came to this pass, how Britain has been massively convulsed by the internal divisions rocking the dominant Conservative (Tory) Party — such that Boris Johnson, now in power, could be seemingly denouncing the very capitalist interests the Conservative Party was supposed to represent. Brexit didn’t create these developments, but it is the outward form in which these divisions are being played out — and we get both George Kerevan and Paul Mason’s analyses.

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0:00.0	This is Jackabun Radio. I'm Susie Wiseman. We're only too aware of how exhausting the daily drama,
0:16.7	trauma of the Trump presidency is, and in a slightly different way, the same is true in the
0:21.7	United Kingdom where the Brexit crisis has led to
0:24.4	Boris Johnson now occupying 10 Downing Street, suspending Parliament, and
0:29.7	perhaps lying to the Queen all to push forward a no-deal Brexit by October 31st.
0:36.0	As Paul Mason puts it, this is Brexhaustion and chaos is being normalized, albeit manufactured.
0:43.2	The daily ins and outs are more than confusing,
0:45.9	especially to outside spectators,
0:48.3	but today we hope to shed light on this now
0:51.2	constitutional crisis with British journalist and writer Paul Mason
0:55.4	and with political economist journalist and former SMP MP George caravan.
1:01.6	We begin with George caravan who fills us in on the Scottish
1:05.6	case by framing for us just how the UK came to this past, how Britain has been
1:11.8	massively convulsed by the internal divisions
1:15.1	rocking the dominant conservative or Tory party such that Boris Johnson
1:20.1	now in power could be seemingly denouncing the very capitalist interests the Conservative
1:26.0	Party was supposed to represent. Brexit didn't create these developments but it is
1:31.1	the outward form in which these divisions are being played out and will get
1:35.4	both George Caravan and Paul Mason's analyses.
1:39.2	When Jacobin Radio returns in just a moment. Welcome to Jacobin Radio. I'm Susie Weisman Radio.
1:50.0	I'm Susie Weisman, and we're going to do Brexit today. It's really overwhelming
1:55.1	everything it's a daily drama and here in the United States we're only too
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