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Jacobin Radio: Mike Davis and Robert Brenner

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Politics, History, News

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🗓️ 24 March 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Podcasting in the time of coronavirus: Suzi's new episode of Jacobin Radio features interviews with Marxist greats Mike Davis and Robert Brenner. Mike Davis is writing widely on the COVID-19 pandemic in Jacobin and the Nation. Fifteen years ago, Davis published The Monster at Our Door: The Global Threat of Avian Flu, and he sees the coronavirus pandemic as the familiar monster now at our door. We get his views on the huge challenges coronavirus poses for humanity, and the impotence of global capitalism in the face of biological crisis. He calls it a “Medical Katrina” that exposes the woeful unpreparedness of our disinvested public health system as well as the stark class divide of health care in the United States. <o:p></o:p>

Suzi then turns to Robert Brenner for his analysis of the deepening crisis and its political implications. Brenner says that the economic meltdown was triggered by COVID-19 but not caused by it. We get his account of the politics — that is of the way wealth is now attained by political rather than the old-fashioned means: how an alliance of top corporate managers and the very rich, plus leading politicians from both political parties, have rigged the political economy in favor of the 1 percent. It is from the standpoint of this transition from capitalism (back) to feudalism that we need to understand how the crisis is unfolding and the various political responses to it, from the establishment and from the Left. <o:p></o:p>

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This is Jacobin Radio and I'm Susie We're

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We begin today with writer Marxist environmentalist and urban

0:16.5

theorist Mike Davis who's publishing widely on the COVID-19 pandemic in

0:22.0

Jacobin the nation in these times, and elsewhere.

0:25.6

Fifteen years ago, Mike published The Monster at Our Door, the global threat of Avian

0:31.0

flu, and he sees the coronavirus and this pandemic plague as the

0:35.8

familiar monster now at our door. We get Mike's views on the huge challenges

0:41.6

coronavirus poses for humanity, the impotence of global

0:45.6

capitalism in its current neoliberal form to prepare for or confront this biological

0:52.0

crisis.

0:53.0

Mike writes that this medical Katrina exposes the woeful unpreparedness of our

0:58.6

disinvested public health system, as well as the stark class divide of health care in the US. The urgent

1:06.0

demand now is for an international public health infrastructure at minimum and

1:11.4

there's more. We then turn to Robert Brenner for his analysis of the

1:16.4

deepening crisis and its political implications. Brenner holds that the

1:22.1

economic meltdown was triggered by the coronavirus COVID-19, but not caused by it.

1:28.8

We get his account of the politics, that is, of the way wealth is now attained by political rather than the old-fashioned

1:36.3

means and how an alliance of top corporate managers and the very rich plus leading politicians from both political parties

1:45.3

have rigged the political economy in favor of the 1%. It's from this standpoint

1:50.8

of this transition from capitalism, back to feudalism, that we need to understand

1:56.7

how the crisis is unfolding and the various political responses to it from the establishment and from the left. All this when Jacobin Radio, I'm Susie Weisman Radio. I'm Susie Weisman.

2:18.0

Today we're going to begin with writer, Marxist environmentalist and urban theorists Mike Davis,

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