Welcome to Jacobin Radio, I'm Susie Weizmann.

Today we look at the science and politics of the coronavirus pandemic with Erv Weizmann and then at

working conditions for essential workers, those at Amazon fulfillment centers that pose a threat to the workers themselves and

public health. We begin with Irv Wiseman, director of Stamford University's

Institute of stem cell biology and regenerative medicine, and he answers questions about just why the

coronavirus is so devastating and how this virus has exposed the fragility of

our public health infrastructure and how that is further

hampered by the political response from this administration. We then talk to

Sheheri R Kossuji of the Warehouse Workers Resource Center about the Amazon workers who are protesting

here in the inland empire and staging walkouts around the country over the lack of

safety equipment and practices in their places of work.

All this when Jacobin Radio returned. and practices in their places of work.

All this when Jacobin Radio returns in Justin.

Welcome to Jacobin Radio, I'm Susie Weisman. I'm Susie Weisman. Very pleased to have my brother, Dr.

Erb Weisman, with us today. We're going to talk about COVID or the coronavirus pandemic and I should just say that Irv is not a

virologist he's a cancer and stem cell biologist in fact he's the director of

Stanford University's Institute of stemem Cell Biology and Regenerative Medicine.

He was previously the head of the Immunology Program and the Cancer Center.

He's also widely recognized as a stem cell pioneer in his research.

Previously, he was able to identify a marker or the don't eat me cell.

He could probably explain it on cancer cells that would make them invisible to the body's own immune

system and then once unmasked the body would then theoretically be able to

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