Casey, I don't know if you've heard the news, but some people are fired up about this idea of redistricting.

Not just here, but also in Texas and California.

Well, it's so fascinating.

We've talked about it.

We've gone into great detail numerous times about this that it's just, we're just admitting out loud that voting is just completely rigged. Like there's no point in any of it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. If it mattered, they wouldn't let you do it. Right. They'll, we'll make it whatever we want it to be. And then you just show up peasant and pretend like you actually, your participation actually mattered. It's like a participation trophy. Absolutely. When you've got the sitting Secretary of State in Indiana, basically just saying our job in voting

is to carry Donald Trump's agenda, not have free and fair elections, not may the

best man or woman win, not, hey, you know, have better ideas.

Our job is just to facilitate Trump's agenda.

You know, and the thing about this is, okay, let's have the special session.

Let's redistrict.

What's not to stop them from doing it again in a year?

Well, we're going to talk with Nikki Kelly coming up at 1015, and we're going to get into that about how this little rigging of Marion County, if indeed they go down that route, maybe just a temporary thing.

So we'll get into that later.

I saw this the other day.

There was a very interesting article in the Indies or column opinion piece by Jacob Stewart.

And it was about the redistricting process.

And if the Republicans really want to change the maps, especially

in the first congressional district, which is that region, as they call it, the Chicagoland area,

there's a way they could prove to the public it is necessary. And he says they should have a special

census. Jacob, Stuart from the Indy Star. Join us now. Jacob, hello. Yeah, thanks for having me on.

Okay, so you worked in the Senate, right?

At one point, the Indiana Senate. Correct. So you know how this process, well, how the Senate itself works. Do you get a feeling, before we get into your column, do you get a feeling that they are going to go forward with the redistricting? You know these people. I have the feeling that they will very reluctantly, though.

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