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Subjects availability, price and participation may vary. Welcome to South Beach Sessions. We do it out here on the West Coast to get the most interesting people. Jacob Soberoff, I'm sorry I'm doing this

with the circle, but he represents a lot of the things that I'm interested in, not just journalism

that he does for MS now, formerly MSNBC, the book he's written about the destruction of his

childhood home and how he ties it to climate change. You guys know I'm interested in climate change

and the very important work you're doing fact gathering in what is the border

war where you have more information than most. And it's information that's a bit personal

to me because I don't understand what's happening in America. I don't understand what's

happening in America either. So maybe we'll figure it out. So thank you for joining us.

And we'll talk about your book in a second. It had to be a very personal, emotional thing to see your childhood home destroyed in the Palisades fires and then to decide to explore the depths of all of that emotion. So I look forward to talking about the book, which comes out soon, and I will tell you the title in a moment, because I don't want to read my notes right now. And the title of the book is a little bit, it's a bit depressing because it's not just the Great L.A. fires, but it's impending disasters that are on the horizon everywhere. I'll do it for you. Firestorm, the great Los Angeles fires in America's New Age of Disaster, but I will say we'll talk about it a little bit.

And thank you so much for inviting me to do this.

I've wanted to do this for a long time and spend time with you.

And I think it's so cool what you're doing.

And I love that you're interested in all of this stuff. But I do think that the story of the fires, as much as it is, a story about climate change and about the politics of the moment and really awful, awful stuff that took place in LA a year ago.

It's a story about people and it's a story about hope and it's a story about optimism.

So it won't all be depressing.

So people should stay tuned to the end of our conversation.

Well, I also imagine that it probably represents in some ways your entire journey through journalism and all of the things that you have learned

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