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The Bulwark Podcast

Jacob Soboroff and Sarah McBride: Democracy at the Ground Level

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

The administration may be trying to lay the groundwork for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act by invading Chicago but the real human stories are breaking through: ordinary Chicagoans are outraged that good, decent immigrants are being snatched off the street and their families’ lives ruined. And while Kristi Noem keeps promoting the bad guys that are being rounded up, ICE is also treating American citizens abhorrently. Plus, from our live show in D.C., Rep. Sarah McBride talks with Sarah Longwell about the need for a big tent coalition without purity tests, and how the Dem demands for a renewal of the ACA subsidies is also a challenge to Trump’s authoritarian power grab.

Jacob Soboroff joins Tim Miller and Rep. Sarah McBride was live with Sarah Longwell.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. We're going deep on the scenes from Chicago with Jacob Soberoff today, who's been on the ground, doing amazing reporting. But I wanted to also hit on a couple of news items. This morning, the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Maria Machado, noticeably not Donald Trump. She received it for her tireless work promoting democratic rights for the people

0:21.5

of Venezuela, which is in contrast with bombing people from Venezuela and also in contrast with

0:29.8

sending people from Venezuela to foreign gulags. So you can maybe see why her resume was a little bit

0:36.5

better. So congratulations to Maria Machado.

0:40.1

It's a tough break for Mr. Trump, who really, really wanted one more trophy.

0:45.2

The man wants trophies more than a five-year-old.

0:48.5

I got to tell you, my daughter, God love her.

0:51.6

It's just last year or two years ago.

0:52.8

So either age five or six, demanded to do track because she wanted a medal so badly.

0:59.2

Did track, is fast, got two medals.

1:03.0

This year when we asked her if she wanted to do track, nope, didn't want to.

1:06.5

No, box was checked.

1:08.3

And that is, I feel like that's the depth, the same depth at which Donald Trump

1:12.0

wants the Nobel Peace Prize. It's like the way that a five-year-old wants a medal is how,

1:16.7

is how Donald Trump wants the Nobel Peace Prize. But he hasn't received it yet. So maybe

1:20.1

they'll keep him on good behavior up until 2026. Fingers crossed on that. In I think the more

1:26.7

significant news from last night, New York Attorney General Tish James was indicted on charges of bank fraud and making false statements to a financial institution.

1:36.3

It was indicted by a federal grand jury in Virginia, which is worth noting. This is about the second mortgage that she had on a home in Norfolk.

1:45.5

We've been covering this, this guy, Bill Pulte, who is a random apparatchik that in the

1:52.6

housing, one of the housing departments has decided to, you know, try to go after all

1:58.0

of Trump's foes and dig deep in any resistance figures mortgage history.

2:06.1

And so this is what he came up with. It is worth reminding you, reminding us that the U.S.

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