I think millennials, at least, for the most part,

we were like really believed the sort of racial, gender-based equality.

We were all going to be given equal chances.

We understood.

Some people had legs up.

Some people didn't.

But overall, I think we really believed it in a way that I'm not sure previous generations did.

And I think what the DEI stuff did was disabuse us of that in a way

that has been ultimately pretty poisonous for our politics. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

For the last 10 years, there has been an immense amount of talk about diversity, about DEI,

and it's sometimes hard to know what the impact of that has actually been.

Has there been real changes in the way in which American institutions recruit talent,

and the way in which they run, when you look at the top echelons,

it sometimes feels as further change hasn't been as big as it might seem.

Well, my guest today has written a couple of viral articles

saying that there has been a huge change in the last decade,

but it was concentrated among a particular generation of white men.

Quote the Lost Generation in Compact Magazine,

Jacob makes an argument with a lot of detail

showing to what extent the percentage of white men

who were admitted to writers' rooms in major Hollywood shows,

who got tenure-tracked appointments in academia, who were hired in entry-level positions

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