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Jacob Rees-Mogg on Tory ‘psychodrama’: Badenoch and Farage must work together

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🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Kemi Badenoch has attacked both Labour and Reform for being “addicted to psychodrama”, and called recent defectors from her party “drama queens”. Tim is joined by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg to digest the speech.


Tim also spoke to the Tory leader after she’d stepped off stage and put to her the suggestion – made by Sir Jacob on social media – that the Tories shouldn’t field a candidate in Gorton and Denton in order to leave Reform a clear path.


Elsewhere, Rees-Mogg makes the case for Shamima Begum to be allowed to return to the UK, and the Reverend Richard Coles talks to Tim and Jacob about the confirmation of new Archbishop of Canterbury, Sarah Mullally.


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0:00.0

The Telegraph.

0:09.8

Drama queens and toddlers.

0:11.7

Kimmy Badenock has called an end to the psycho drama in her party.

0:15.9

Daily Tea has spoken to her.

0:17.5

And you even try to get me chucked out of the party, which seems a bit mean.

0:21.8

Also, we speak to Reverend Richard Coles about the confirmation of Sarah Mulally as the new Archbishop of Canterbury.

0:28.7

Welcome to the Daily Tea. With me Tim Stanley and me, Jacobry Smok.

0:37.0

Music Jacob, welcome back to the Daily Tea. How are you, sir?

0:46.3

Extremely well, thank you, and how are you?

0:47.7

I'm very well.

0:48.5

Enjoying the new year.

0:49.4

Enjoying the new year.

0:50.6

Have I not seen you since the new year?

0:51.8

I think we have. And do you still view it as Christmas until candlemas? Or have you taken down your decorations? I'm afraid they have come down, but in my heart it is Christmas. And why have they come down? Because, of course, people collect Christmas trees so early. So if you want it collected and taken away, you have to the secular dictatorship. And have it taken away even before Epiphany? No, no, no. After Epiphany. It was a good week after.

1:13.8

And thank you to the secular dictatorship. And have it taken away even before Epiphany? No, no, no. After epiphany. It was a good week after. And thank you to the hospice in the wheel for doing it too. Jacob, this morning I went to see Kemi give a speech. We had no idea what she was going to say. She unloaded on those who had defected to reform. At a time when NATO is under threat, at a time when we were trying to stop Labour surrendering

1:32.1

British territory in the Chegos Islands and fighting to save Britain's hospitality industry,

1:38.2

what were other parties doing?

1:40.2

Psychodrama.

1:41.4

The Labour Party, scheming to bring in a new contender to challenge the Prime

1:46.4

Minister, Reform UK, distracting everyone from Labour's mess, dressing up a defection rally as a

1:53.4

veteran's event. Everyone is fed up with this style of politics. We need to get serious.

2:03.9

Daisy, we're moving on from defectors and defections. These are drama queens. This is

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