Welcome to Rates and barrels. It is Wednesday, June 7th. Derek Van Riper, Enoceris, here with you on this episode.

We will discuss elbow surgery on the docket for Jacob de Grom.

A big reset opportunity for Alec Manoa as the Jays decided not to send him to AAA Buffalo to work through his struggles, but all the way back to Florida to the team's complex league where he can maybe just start from scratch.

So we'll dig into that.

We'll take a look at some pitch tempo information looking at last year versus this year and some players that have struggled or suffered injuries.

And of course, we're going to dig into a few mailbag questions as well.

But a ton of ground to cover today.

You know, yesterday we learned that Jacob de Grom will need another surgery on his elbow.

It is going to be a procedure on his UCL.

Probably Tommy John surgery.

He's had Tommy John surgery before.

There are a few variations.

There's the internal brace surgery, which can come with a faster timeline for recovery.

But as we were looking into different surgeries prior to the show, you can have both.

Amateur doctoring.

Yeah, amateur doctoring, Googling things.

Tyler Glass now had the ligament replacement and the brace because if you're getting the ligament replaced, it doesn't seem to add much to your timetable to also have a brace put in. You didn't even tell me that. That's interesting. I was sitting here thinking he got the brace. No, he had both. Dr. Keith Meester. So that's why he had a normal recovery time, right? Like he wasn't any shorter. It was like 12 to 14 months. It was in the normal window. Yeah. So now they're just throwing them both in there just to have better outcomes, I guess. Right. And I was comparing it to having a floating shelf on the wall that falls because you only have the anchors on the end. so then you add the third anchor in the middle after the shelf falls and then hopefully the shelf stays up. I mean, it's, I'm not trying to make a joke out of the situation as much as I'm just trying to think of a visual like, well, it's already broken. So if you're going to put it back up, put it back up with a little more there and hopefully, you know, you get a a guy back and he can pitch for three

four five more years and you know with de cram given his age given that he's had Tommy

John before I get it there's no guarantee I mean we've seen guys who've had one Tommy

John come back and and not be the same player they were post-surgery that they were

pre-surgery that happens more than we realize.

DeGrom is already 34 years old, 35, just in a couple of weeks.

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