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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Jacob Barandes: The Mathematical Accident That Rewrites Quantum Theory

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.6606 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 127 minutes

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Summary

Jacob Barandes challenges a hidden assumption in quantum theory, linking classical probability to quantum mechanics through a so‑called mathematical accident. The episode explores how this view reshapes Bell’s theorem, the measurement problem, and offers a realist path forward for quantum physics.0:00 Introduction1:02 Non-locality & Local Realism13:58 Quantum Theory20:45 Copenhagen Interpretation28:11 Many Worlds Interpretation34:54 Creating Indivisible Stochastic Process50:59 Indivisible Stochastic Process1:01:46 Teaching Black Holes to Graduate Students1:04:59 Coordinate Systems in Space-Time1:06:58 Teaching Black Hole Coordinates1:10:11 Insights from Nima1:13:41 Nima's Course on Quantum Mechanics1:16:22 Quantum Foundations and Cosmology1:18:48 Transitioning to Quantum Gravity1:23:10 Philosophy's Role in Physics1:26:10 Leaving String Theory1:33:39 Interpretations of Quantum Mechanics1:37:02 Challenges of String Theory1:42:49 Quantum Field Theory Insights1:50:30 Foundations of Quantum Field Theory1:53:47 Particle Existence Between Measurements1:59:44 Speculations on Quantum Gravity2:01:41 Legacy and ContributionsSPONSORS:- I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOERESOURCES:- Press release of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics: https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2022/10/press-physicsprize2022-2.pdf- Eddy Chen & Barry Loewer on TOE: https://youtu.be/xZnafO__IZ0- Jacob Barandes on TOE (part 1): https://youtu.be/7oWip00iXbo- Tim Maudlin on TOE: https://youtu.be/fU1bs5o3nss- What Is Real? (book): https://www.amazon.com/What-Real-Unfinished-Meaning-Quantum/dp/0465096050- David Wallace on TOE: https://youtu.be/4MjNuJK5RzM- The Copenhagen Interpretation: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-copenhagen/- Bohmian Mechanics: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-bohm/- Everettian Quantum Mechanics: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-everett/- Jacob Barandes on TOE (part 2): https://youtu.be/YaS1usLeXQM- Jacob Barandes on TOE (part 3): https://youtu.be/wrUvtqr4wOs- The sky is blue (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.00568- The Emergent Universe (book): https://www.amazon.com/Emergent-Multiverse-Quantum-according-Interpretation/dp/0198707541- Complex Coordinates and Quantum Mechanics (paper): https://journals.aps.org/rmp/abstract/10.1103/RevModPhys.38.36- Kurt Vonnegut's lecture: https://youtu.be/4_RUgnC1lm8- Max Born's memoir: https://archive.org/details/myliferecollecti0000born/page/n5/mode/2up- Hugh Everett's unpublished dissertation: https://ia801909.us.archive.org/20/items/TheTheoryOfTheUniversalWaveFunction/The%20Theory%20of%20the%20Universal%20Wave%20Function.pdf- La nouvelle cuisine (paper): https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/speakable-and-unspeakable-in-quantum-mechanics/la-nouvelle-cuisine/6FFC85D84585D9C41AA4A1185BF5290E- https://curtjaimungal.org Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I don't think it's coherent. I don't think that answers the questions of what's going on in quantum foundations.

0:06.6

Harvard's Jacob Barndes exposes the hidden assumption that has blinded us for nearly a century.

0:13.4

One day, while preparing to teach quantum mechanics, Jacob made a startling discovery.

0:18.4

Quantum theory and classical probability are separated by a single

0:22.7

unnoticed presumption, Markovianity. Drop it and the gap between them vanishes entirely.

0:30.2

Even more startling, this mathematical accident bypasses the so-called local realism constraint

0:36.9

of Bell's theorem and dissolves the measurement

0:39.9

problem. All without magic. This discussion ranges from black holes that rain to the mathematical

0:46.9

beauty of indivisible processes, culminating in a meditation on legacy, kindness, and why the next

0:53.8

revolution in physics demands philosophers

0:56.5

and physicists working as one.

1:01.0

Jacob, welcome back.

1:03.7

It's always a pleasure to talk with you, Kurt.

1:05.8

It's always a pleasure to have you, to host you. Thank you so much.

1:08.9

Lovely being here in Toronto. It's a lovely city.

1:11.3

And if you haven't been to Toronto, you should come visit. It's great.

1:14.6

Is Toronto real? Here, how about that? Is Toronto

1:17.6

non-locally real or locally real? Firstly, let's focus on this term real.

1:24.3

Has the 2022 Nobel Prize disproved so-called local realism?

1:30.4

If you read the press release from the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics that was given to

1:37.4

Ossespe, Klauser, and Zylinger for their work testing experimentally violations of a generalized set of

1:48.6

equalities that began with the Bell inequality and evolved into things like the CHSH

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