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Hey there, folks. Welcome to the program. Chris Williams, I'd like to welcome you to the program.

Thank you. Why are you on the set? Oh, wait a minute. You're the producer.

It's true. I'm the producer.

I came on the set. You know, there's no, the security is tight in this building. Yeah. So if we want to have... But you snuck through. Yeah. And if we want to have any sort of like onset, you know, sort of events, you know, I have to do those things. You have to do them. Right. You have to be the man, Johnny, on the spot.

Well, listen, I want to talk those things. You have to do them. Right. You have to be the man,

Johnny on the spot. Well, listen, I want to talk about a couple of things. First of all, I want to talk about my new book called Religinalist Christianity. Ding, it is, it's always exciting

when a book comes out. Writing books is hard. And a lot of times people say, tell me,

what's the writing process? It's not fun. If you're having fun, probably, you know, it's not

that good what you're writing. Actually, that's not a fact, but writing is hard. So when a book

arrives and it's an actual book, there's tremendous pride because it represents

all this work you've done. Right, right, right. And when people say to me, it's kind of like

when the baby comes out. It's like, oh, there it is. Kind of. Kind of. But when, when,

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