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Hello everyone and welcome to Indiecast.

On the show we talk about the biggest media news of the week.

We review albums and we hash out trends.

In this episode, we review new albums by Jack White and Father John Misty. My name is Stephen Hayden, and I'm joined by my friend and co-host, the one person who has listened to that John Patiste album, Ian Cohen, Ian, who are you? You know, I don't think that's actually true, right? It can't be true. That album doesn't exist exist i don't think that album exists has anyone

heard of that album before one album of the year uh i know it exists i totally know it exists because uh you

know sometimes my wife watched the colbert report and uh yeah so that that's how i and that's how i know

who he is and i think this is well i know who he is but like that that album, I didn't know he made a, I looked it up on, it wasn't on Metacritic, but it was on Album of the Earth, been reviewed by four different publications, three of which I haven't heard of, and another is like a three and a half star review from Rolling Stone. So, uh, it, it definitely exists. but, um, you know, I, I, I know that both you and I have

been told that we need to accept reality that the Grammys are awesome. And I think I'm like,

transitioning from anger to bargaining in the five steps, five stages of grief. Because like,

I've cut like, like, in the past few days, like,

I've almost come to realize that, like, yeah, the Grammys are awesome, not because, like,

I love seeing Silk Sonic and Food Fighters, you know, split 90% of the awards, but, like,

the Grammys will always find ways to just do the most Grammy shit possible.

And that's, like, the explanation for every single thing, which makes absolutely no sense in an objective or subjective way. It's like,

ah, Grammys are going to Grammy. And it's almost like just fascinating to watch. Yeah, you know,

you referenced this that the coverage of the Grammys this year

seemed by and large to be very positive.

And I've noticed this trend that as the audience for the Grammys shrinks,

the media recap somehow get nicer.

It's this weird dichotomy that goes on where the show seems like less and less relevant.

Yeah. But the media is treating it like it's better than ever. I mean, I think the thing that

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