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Let's go, Beyond Reality.

It's Wednesday on the west, Thursday on the east.

Many are stuck somewhere in between.

Welcome to Beyond Reality radio with me, Jason Haas, and the always awesome, J.V. Johnson.

We've been talking about Jack the Ripper on and off for over 130 years. Well, not you and me

personally, but... No, I mean, it would be pretty old.

Yeah, but the crime community, legend lore, public opinion, you know, it's been one of those mysteries that's endured, obviously, because they haven't been able to find out who the criminal was.

But just the gruesome nature of the crimes and the clandestine nature of the crimes and the victims that were selected and how they were selected and who they were.

I mean, it's been one of these just enduring, fascinating mysteries.

And our guest tonight, Michael Hawley, has been on the program before, Jay.

I'm sure you remember.

I think it was like June of last year.

Yeah, yeah, last year.

He had written a book about one of the prime suspects.

He believed it was Dr. Francis Tumblety, I believe.

But now some scientists have released some information based on some DNA evidence that they think they have solved this mystery.

And we're going to get into that tonight.

I'm excited about it.

Yeah, this should be an interesting show.

And I actually, when I was filming an episode of Ghost of ghost hunters we were over in the uk and we went on one of them one of jack the ripper tours where they walk you all around the area and uh i just it was

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