Jack Smith testifies he has proof Trump tried to overturn 2020 election

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🗓️ 22 January 2026

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Former special counsel Jack Smith said in front of the House Judiciary Committee that, if the Justice Department was able to investigate President Trump’s push to overturn the 2020 election results, a jury would have found him guilty. Politico’s Kyle Cheney shares more from Smith’s testimony.

Then, Kaohly Her, mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota, explains what she’s seeing in her city as brutal Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations continue. Her has been subpoenaed by the Justice Department.

And, Russian officials have been responding cheerfully to the growing rift between the U.S. and its NATO allies in Europe. The American Enterprise Institute's Angela Stent details how Trump’s push to control Greenland affects Russia’s geopolitical strategy.

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0:24.9	I stand by my decisions as special counsel,
0:28.3	including the decision to bring charges against President Trump.
0:33.2	Our investigation developed proof
0:35.4	beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump engaged in criminal activity.
0:41.7	Today is the first public testimony by former special counsel Jack Smith about his efforts to charge the president with trying to overturn the 2020 election.
1:06.3	It's Thursday, January 22nd, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBWR.
1:07.6	I'm Chris Bentley.
1:16.3	Today on the show, the mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota, says her city is under siege by ICE.
1:19.8	Every single person that ICE has accosted has taken.
1:27.8	Somebody loves that person and that they don't have to look like me in order for me to understand that when you tear families apart, you tear away the fabric of what makes us Minnesotans. Also, Trump is backing off his most bellicose threats against
1:34.7	Europe and NATO over Greenland. But the diplomatic damage is done. What's the view from Moscow?
1:42.1	The Russians have just watched in amazement, you know, how the transatlantic alliance is fraying.
1:47.7	Before we get to that, though,
1:49.7	former special counsel Jack Smith told Congress today he had, quote,
1:54.5	proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the 2020 election.
2:02.1	Smith said he wanted to correct what he called false and misleading narratives about his investigation,
2:07.5	and he said a jury would have found Trump guilty if the Justice Department had been able to prosecute him.
2:14.4	Republicans pushed back and demanded answers for why Smith gathered some Republican lawmakers' cell phone records as part of the investigation.
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