How much trouble did Donald J. Trump in?

Welcome to the Trump Trials, Arthur's day episode of the Bull Work Podcast, where the

second time this week Donald Trump was indicted for the second time he was arraigned.

And afterwards, a defined Donald Trump said he would retaliate using his own weaponized

Department of Justice.

So, what was it like in the courtroom?

What does the indictment tell us?

What are the strongest charges?

What are the possible weaknesses?

What about that judge?

And does Jack Smith have a fallback position in New Jersey?

And what happens next?

And so, of course, joining us once again, Ben Wittis, Editor-in-Chief of Lawfare, Senior

Fellow and Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution, and Anna Bauer, correspondent

for Lawfare, who was inside the Miami courtroom when Trump was arraigned this week.

So, first of all, welcome to the podcast, Ben and Anna.

Thanks.

Well, we have a lot of ground to cover today, but Anna, this is kind of a special treat

because you were one of the handful of reporters that was able to get into that courtroom

in Miami after standing in line for, did I hear this right?

They used to be in line for 27 hours, yet wait for 27 hours to get into that courtroom.

I did.

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