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The Politics Guys

Jack Smith, Russian Hoax, JD Vance

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Ken Katkin and Justin Holmes discuss dive into the recent appellate court decision in the DOJ contempt suit, new developments in the investigations of Jack Smith and the Russia Hoax, as well as JD Vance using federal resources to make sure he had a good canoe trip. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Mike’s Substack: What Fresh Hell is This? Check out the excellent Sustainable Planet podcast. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support atpatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Atheists agnostics, long-haired,

0:03.6

winters, short-haired winners, vandal,

0:05.4

gulagos.

0:06.4

The government, hot the government, love, the government,

0:09.5

love the government, the government,

0:12.2

a place for civil, rational, and reasoned discussion

0:17.9

and debate on the day's issues.

0:20.3

This is our bonus show of the week.

0:23.0

I am Justin Holmes, Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Northern

0:28.2

Iowa, and I'm joined today by Ken Katkin, a professor of law at the Chase College of Law

0:33.9

at Northern Kentucky University.

0:36.4

How you doing, Ken?

0:38.7

I'm pretty good. How are you?

0:47.3

I'm not bad myself. So we've got kind of some things, of course, that didn't fit into the scope of the normal show or the regular weekly show. As always, there's sort of an overflow of political stuff going on,

0:55.7

and certainly we can't touch everything,

0:58.0

but this gives us a chance to get a little bit more.

1:01.2

So I think we can go ahead and sort of jump in here.

1:06.7

We have sort of two related things, I think.

1:09.5

They are slightly different in terms of origin and actors and things, but sort of consistent

1:19.6

principles and issues at stake.

1:22.5

And that is both kind of Pam Bondi stepping up the investigation of the air quotes Russia hoax,

1:31.9

as well as now calls to investigate former prosecutor Jack Smith.

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