Jack Smith defends Trump investigations and Trump backs off Greenland threat
The NPR Politics Podcast
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🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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This episode: political correspondent Ashley Lopez, justice correspondent Carrie Johnson, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, and senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro.
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| 0:00.0 | This week on Consider This, the bigger story behind President Trump's trip to the world economic |
| 0:06.1 | form in Davos, how he's rewriting the rules of the economy, and how the rest of the world is coming to terms with a global order not led by the United States. |
| 0:16.0 | Listen every afternoon to consider this on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:23.4 | Hi, this is Tim in Rochester, Minnesota. |
| 0:27.7 | I'm currently sitting inside with my one-day-old baby daughter, |
| 0:33.0 | looking outside at the negative 8-degree temperature, glad I'm warm and cozy inside. This podcast was recorded at |
| 0:41.2 | 12.36 p.m. Eastern Time on January 23rd, 2026. Things may have changed by the time you hear it, but I will be |
| 0:49.4 | soaking up all the cuddle time that I can get. |
| 0:58.6 | That's so nice. |
| 1:00.0 | Well, congratulations on a new baby. |
| 1:01.3 | It sounds snugly warm. |
| 1:04.2 | Oh, man, it's going to be a weekend. |
| 1:05.1 | No. |
| 1:07.7 | We're all getting prepared for similar weather over here. |
| 1:08.4 | Hey, there. |
| 1:09.8 | It's the NPR Politics Podcast. |
| 1:10.7 | I'm Ashley Lopez. I cover politics. I'm Carrie Johnson. I cover the Justice Department. And I, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Ashley Lopez. |
| 1:11.5 | I cover politics. |
| 1:31.6 | I'm Carrie Johnson. I cover the Justice Department. And I'm Domenico Montanaro, senior political editor and correspondent. And today on the show, we're going to try to make sense of another busy week in the world of politics. This week marked a year since President Trump was sworn in for a second time. This month also marks five years after an angry mob attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. |
| 1:37.1 | That attack led to a criminal investigation into Trump led by then special counsel, Jack Smith. |
| 1:42.5 | Smith was on Capitol Hill yesterday, speaking publicly for the first time about those cases. |
| 1:44.0 | Carrie, let's start with you. Before we get into what we heard from Smith, can you please remind us of the two indictments, |
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