Welcome to the Eric McTaxus show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Hey there, folks.

Today is the day of the two Jacks, Jack Maxey, who I'm still speaking with about the Hunter Biden laptop, and Jack Phillips with the masterpiece cake shop in Colorado. He'll be my guest in our next segment and for this second hour to talk about religious liberty or the lack of it in America. But Jack Maxey,

since you're still with us, let's keep going. What is the most heinous thing? And there's somebody

who's just, they're confused by the details. What is the bottom line for you with regard to this issue?

Bottom line for me is that institutions that we believe are protecting our liberties that are in fact instituted for that singular purpose have betrayed us.

I'm talking about our intelligence services.

I'm talking about certain aspects of our intelligence services. I'm talking about certain aspects

of our intelligence services. I'm talking about certain aspects of our FBI. Perhaps there are good

guys out there. And if you are, I think you've got to blow the whistle, become American heroes.

Otherwise, you're going to go down in flames. I think there has to be a church committee hearing

of some sort on the

what?

Something like the church committee hearings that we had on the CIA back in the 70s.

I think the same thing has to be done for the FBI.

I clearly think that somebody in the media has to ask those 50 experts, Clapper, Hayden,

Brennan, and how they came to the conclusion that this was all

false and created in the basement of the Kremlin. This was two weeks before the election.

You don't think that had an impact? And so I'm not one of these people who's chasing down ballots.

I want to chase down those experts

who came out and lied to the American people, and they've never retracted that lie. Never

retracted. It seems obvious that they were lying. They knew that they were lying and they were

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