the more money you can borrow, the more money you can make.

This is the playbook. This day voucher with entrepreneurs, the playbook, and I'm telling you,

there's entrepreneurs coming from every which way these days. And Jack McCall, you certainly came

from a different way that other people are probably kicking themselves and wondering how you did it.

But it's been an area of the reason I wanted to have you on the playbook. Jack, welcome to the

playbook, is I've thought about this for years, right? Understanding that I've met many entrepreneurs,

one of my favorites, she is the largest franchise holder of Denny's. A woman is owns the most

franchises for any woman in America. And she used her own methodology of credit cards to buy

her franchise. And you know, just was a poor girl that believed in herself and is now a multi-multi-multi-millionaire

from a very rudimentary strategy. Now, you become an expert at what's called credit stacking.

And let's just start there. How do you define credit stacking?

Credit stacking is a concept of getting as much credit approved as physically possible.

And if you know the right framework, you can do it very, very effectively. But I think that's

great about that story, you know, funding businesses on, you know, sound like personal credit cards.

I was just on the Ryan Pineda show the other month. And he was talking about how he grew his real estate

empire on personal credit cards. And I don't blame people for using personal credit cards because

there's a massive lack of education for business credit. And I was an entrepreneur for six years

before I learned about business credit. And now that was about two, two and a half years ago. And I've

gone as deep as you can possibly go down the business credit rabbit hole. And the first and most

probably come and ask question for you, I would think would be, don't I ruin my credit if I

have in too much credit or too many credit cards? So that's the beauty. The more credit I've got

to prove for, the better my score is. So I have an 808 on experience and the rest of the other two

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