Hello Marvelites welcome to a very special unnumbered edition of this

week in Marvel our official Marvel podcast because we're celebrating Kirby

Week it would be Jack Kirby's 98 podcast because we're celebrating Kirby Week.

It would be Jack Kirby's 98th birthday this week and we're doing some fun stuff on the website

and celebrating all around and we thought, why don't we bring in the man who knows pretty much

everything about Marvel if you ask me Peter Sanderson Marvel historian author

former staffer, and if you're a listener to the show, you know he's

been on the show many times talking about all things Marvel.

So we wanted to bring in Peter to talk about Jack and his history, his legacy, and fun

anecdotes and little bits and pieces. So welcome Peter.

Glad to be here once again. First, where, before Jack even got to Marvel, which would have been what, timely at the time, right?

Right. Before he even started here, what was was what was Jack doing?

Well he was being born

growing up on the lower east side of New York near Delancey Street, which turned into Yancey Street in the Fantastic Four comics.

And apparently it was a, he did a story late in his life called Street Code, I believe, which is about growing up in that period.

It was a sort of like, it was during the Great Depression.

It was a section of New York where people lived in

townaments, very impoverished area. It's sort of like think of Hell's Kitchen

in the daredevil books but think of it worse and he actually and he was growing up

He wasn't a member of a gang, but but there were gangs for there. There there are people he knew who grew up to be gangsters.

He had to, he was engaged in fighting on the streets.

I've seen people observe that like the Hulk and the Thing, like these characters are

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