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@Jack is leaving Twitter. What now? + Lina Khan’s battle with Big Tech

Channels with Peter Kafka

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Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey is no longer the CEO of Twitter. Why did he leave? And what does the choice of his successor, Parag Agrawal, tell us about Twitter’s future? Bloomberg’s Kurt Wagner sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss Dorsey's tenure as CEO and the reasons behind his decision to step down. Then the New Yorker’s Sheelah Kolhatkar joins the show to talk about the Biden administration’s campaign to rein in Big Tech. Kolhatkar recently profiled Lina Khan, an antitrust academic who now heads up the FTC. Khan and other Biden appointees want to reframe antitrust law and shrink tech giants like Facebook, which was not part of Biden’s election campaign. What changed? Featuring: Kurt Wagner (@KurtWagner8), Reporter for Bloomberg Business Sheelah Kolhatkar (@sheelahk) Staff Writer at The New Yorker Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

1:07.9

That is me, and today I've got two, not one, but two timely discussions for you. I taped them both today. Wednesday. You're listening to it on Thursday. It's that timely. First, as you know, Twitter has a new CEO. So I talked to Bloomberg's Kurt Wagner, but why Jack Dorsey left? Short version, it seems like he got at least some kind of push. And what we ought to know about Parag Agarwal, his successor, and where Twitter is at in general right now. I used to work with Kurt back in the old days, and he's very smart and very informed. That is a useful discussion. And then I wanted to learn more about the Biden administration's approach to big tech and antitrust in general. So I talked to New Yorker Sheila Kolhatkar. She has a long profile out this week about

1:45.9

Lena Khan, the very young and very interesting head of the FTC, who has made it very clear that

1:50.3

she wants to be aggressive about scaling back the power and reach of big tech. And she's got a lot of

1:56.1

obstacles in her way. It's really remarkable that Joe Biden, long time Washington centrist, has appointed

2:02.3

Khan and other antitrust activists in his administration. It is not something he campaigned on.

2:07.9

And I spent a lot of time paying attention to what all the candidates said about tech and

2:11.6

antitrust. And they didn't, none of them besides Elizabeth Warren said much. So it's really

2:16.7

interesting to talk to Cole Hatcar about sort of what that shift has been

2:21.1

and where it's all going to play out.

2:22.6

I'm really curious to see where this goes.

2:24.3

If you work in tech or media, you care about the stuff, you should be paying attention as well.

2:29.7

Okay.

2:30.3

So first, here's Bloomberg's Kurt Wagner.

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