Texas Monthly.

Hey there, I'm John Spong with Texas Monthly magazine, and this is One by Willie,

a podcast in which I talk each week to one notable Willie Nelson fan about one Willie song that they really love.

This week, Texas singer-songwriter Jack Ingram talks about I'd have to be crazy,

which Willie took to number 11 on the country singles chart in 1976.

It was the first song Jack ever learned to play on guitar,

and it prompts him to open up on the complex simplicity of great country songs,

the age-old question of, to smoke or not to smoke,

when someone first encounters Willie,

and Jack's song selection at time he played an informal private set

for a former U.S. president.

Let's do it.

It's art.

So I'm here with Jack Ingram to talk about Willie Nelson's version of I'd have to be crazy.

I'd have to be crazy to stop all my singing and never play music again.

I'd have to be crazy. How come?

You'd call me a fool.

Because that's the first song I ever learned.

First Willie song or first song?

That's the very first song I ever learned.

Wow.

That song always hit right in the sweet spot of my sensibility of like, it sounds really simple,

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