I have to confess, everybody was asking me, who's going to win the election?

Who's going to win the election?

I actually felt that it would be right for God to give us Kamala Harris because we deserve that,

because we've treated God so terribly as a nation.

I'm not talking about you or me.

I'm talking about as a nation.

This overwhelming victory for Donald Trump has more to do with God being merciful than Donald Trump.

Hey, everybody. We're kicking off today's conversations with Jack Hibbs, the senior and founding pastor of Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills.

Jack, thank you so much for joining us on

takeaways.

Listen, Kirk, thank you for having me. Thrill to be with you again, always.

You know, you're doing such amazing things in Chino Hills. I love coming to your church.

My kids love coming to your church. And I love the way that you have just obliterated this lie

of the separation of church and state understood

wrongly, and you're getting Christians to permeate every aspect of local government and school

boards and everything else. And you're seeing wins everywhere after this last election, right?

Aren't there Christians who are now hugely influential

as Salt and Light? Thirty-five years, Kirk, of doing this. We've always been engaged in the culture.

We have always had our heartbeat, as it were, or our pulse on the community. We believe that

that's what a real New Testament church is to be that of

salt and light. And now, after all these years, the rewards the Lord blessed with in these

last election from local school boards, mayor races, city council, county. And then, of course in california the data is overwhelmingly

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