Jack Goldsmith and Susan Hennessey on Russian Interference in the U.S. Election
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 14 October 2016
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
When audio dropped last Friday of Donald Trump boasting of attacks on women, the news quickly eclipsed another, just-as-important election story released right alongside it: reports that the United States government had decided to formally lay the blame for the recent hacking of Democratic Party information at the Kremlin's feet. In any other year, Russia's apparent attempts to interfere with the U.S. presidential election would be the biggest story of the moment. Thankfully, we at Lawfare were able to bring in our own Jack Goldsmith and Susan Hennessey to talk about Russia's hacking and leaking, its apparent probing and scanning of state-level electoral systems, and the U.S. government's confusion regarding what on earth to do about it.
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| 0:29.0 | I think you have to draw really firm lines about what is it, |
| 0:35.0 | where is it acceptable to mess around and where is it not? |
| 0:39.0 | It's not possible to say nobody can mess with anything in the United States. |
| 0:43.0 | You're touching a United States network or computer is unacceptable. |
| 0:47.0 | Or even a government system. |
| 0:49.0 | You have to send very firm messages about, for example, |
| 0:55.0 | you mess with our political parties, we're annoyed. |
| 0:59.0 | Maybe we'll retaliate, but you touch our election infrastructure and there will be a consequence. |
| 1:03.0 | And I think the administration has a little bit gone all in on this notion of well. |
| 1:07.0 | We want to be ambiguous, right? |
| 1:09.0 | We don't want people to know exactly where the thresholds are because we don't want to sort of allow people to do just what they can get away with. |
| 1:15.0 | I think that maybe is not working here, right? |
| 1:19.0 | There is some validity in saying, this is the stuff we just will not tolerate. |
| 1:23.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the Law Fair Podcast October 15th, 2016. |
| 1:31.0 | The US Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence |
| 1:37.0 | have announced that, quote, the US intelligence community is confident that the Russian government |
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