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Deadline: White House

“Jack doesn’t want to go in the box”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Versant, Ms Now, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace covers the latest pushback Donald Trump is getting from Jack Smith as well as the prosecutor heading the investigation into Senator Adam Schiff – and the latest on Trump’s White House demolition job.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone, it's 4 o'clock in New York.

0:10.9

Take a look at this.

0:12.2

Those are excavators picking through all the remains of the historic east wing of the White

0:17.2

House.

0:18.0

In just a matter of days, Donald Trump has reduced the east wing of the White

0:21.7

House to rubble amid popular opposition and Donald Trump's own suspiciously shifting

0:27.3

explanations and stories as to what it's going to be and how much it's going to cost and who's

0:33.9

going to pay for it. We first told you about the start of demolition of the East Wing of the White House on Monday

0:40.0

as the first images bursted into public view.

0:43.4

Images shot from the Treasury Department.

0:45.9

Three days later, it's gone.

0:47.9

The East Wing of the White House is no more.

0:51.1

We'll have much more on that story later in the hour,

0:53.4

but we start with some breaking news.

0:55.8

Special counsel Jack Smith is telling Republicans game on. In a letter just released from his

1:02.5

attorneys to Congressman Jim Jordan and Senator Chuck Grassley, the chairs of the House and

1:07.0

Senate Judiciary Committee, Jack Smith is offering to testify, but he wants to do so in a

1:12.2

public hearing about the investigations he conducted. Jack Smith's attorneys writing this,

1:16.8

quote, given the many mischaracterizations of Mr. Smith's investigation into President Trump's

1:22.2

alleged mishandling of classified documents and his role in attempting to overturn the results of the 2020

1:28.4

election, Mr. Smith respectfully requests the opportunity to testify in open hearings before the

1:35.1

House and Senate Judiciary Committees. Jack Smith's team added just one caveat, quote,

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