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Welcome to the Eric Mataxit Show! It's the show featuring GoGo the Gym!

Nothing like a Gym to live in a radio show!

Easy there, GoGo! GoGo! No! NoGoGo! Nooooo!

Now your host, Eric Mataxit!

May folks, this is the Eric Mataxit Show!

May folks, and this is the Eric Mataxit Show!

You know, and I get to have fun, you know, sometimes doing this show.

I get to have fun, show because I get to have fun sometimes doing this show.

Because I get to have friends on who've done great things.

I get to have strangers on who've done great things and written fun books today.

It's a friend, my friend Jack Deere, Jack, welcome to the program.

Thanks, Eric. Glad to be here.

Well, I would love to talk to you about anything, anytime you're in New York.

But you have a book out, a brand new book called Even in Our Darkness, a story of beauty in a broken life.

The cover of the book is beautiful. Since we're on camera, I can show the cover of the book.

It's a beautiful cover, a lot of times beautiful books don't have beautiful covers.

I read the book. I was profoundly moved by it and impressed by the writing.

It's rare that I would say that because there are a lot of great books where the writing is not particularly good.

But the writing, you're writing and your ability to suck in the reader to want to flip the pages fast is impressive.

And it's something to which I aspire myself.

But it's also, it's a sad, powerful story.

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