Welcome to the ErickMateAxis show. It's the sort of quirky thing you desperately wish toward available.

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We're all casting live in the heart of New York City.

The ErickMateAxis show.

Now your host, ErickMateAxis.

Hey there folks. It's the ErickMateAxis show.

I don't know about you but this is not the kind of radio show where you tune in and we jump from guest to guest to guest.

If possible not only would I like to have one guest during an hour.

I'd like to have a guest for several hours to have an in-depth conversation.

I don't get to do that all the time but sometimes I do get to do it.

And today we have again in the studio Jack Deer my friend, the author of a brand new book even in our darkness.

Jack welcome to the program.

Thanks very glad to be here.

Now I'm not hearing his microphone very well. I just want to make sure that okay we're good.

So Jack I just want to continue the conversation that we had from the other day about your book.

First of all the book is brand new. It's just out now. This is the beginning of March.

But there's so much in this book and so much in your life that I just want to talk about since you happen to be in New York.

It makes me happy with your wife here Lisa. So where should we begin?

I mean last time we I don't even remember where we ended but I'll remember if we repeat ourselves.

Well I think the major transition in my life came about the middle about 38 or 40 years old when I began to seek a friendship with God.

Okay so again to review you had a kind of a tough upbringing and you talk about all this stuff in the book.

And it's kind of amazing actually because I think your story I say in my blurb my endorsement that that this story is everybody's story because when I read the book I thought this is kind of the more normal story.

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