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🗓️ 17 March 2025
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Today, I'm joined by Jack Conte, musician, creator, and CEO of Patreon, the platform that's helped thousands of artists and creators build sustainable businesses. From co founding Patreon to leading a band and creating his own content, Jack has spent his career pushing the boundaries of creativity, entrepreneurship, and what it means to make a living as an artist.
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00:00 Intro
00:44 Rule 1: Be the pilot in command
07:42 Rule 2: Actively evolve your brain
13:49 Rule 3: Change is an opportunity, not a threat
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0:00.0 | Evolving your brain is possible. |
0:01.8 | There's a lot of people say people never change, blah, blah, blah. |
0:03.8 | Bullshit. |
0:04.5 | You can absolutely change your brain at a core level and become the way you want to become. |
0:12.2 | Hey there. |
0:13.0 | I'm Matt Diavella and welcome to my short form podcast, Three Rules. |
0:17.0 | Each episode, I ask a guest to share three rules that help them find success and happiness. |
0:22.0 | Today I'm joined by Jack Conti, musician, creator, and CEO of Patreon, the platform that's |
0:27.2 | helped thousands of artists and creators build sustainable businesses. |
0:30.6 | From co-founding Patreon to leading a band and creating his own content, Jack has spent |
0:35.3 | his career pushing the boundaries of creativity, |
0:37.8 | entrepreneurship, and what it means to make a living as an artist. |
0:41.0 | Yeah, let's jump right into it. What's rule number one for you? |
0:43.5 | Rule one, be the pilot in command. This is something I learned from paragliding. I started paragliding |
0:48.6 | about four years ago. I love paragliding. You're up in the air by yourself with a thing |
0:53.2 | that kind of looks like a parachute, but it's a little thinner and a little longer. |
0:56.4 | And you're sometimes 2,000 feet in the air, more. |
0:59.3 | I was in Columbia last year inside a cloud, you know, paragliding by myself, literally in a cloud. |
1:04.9 | They call it the white room because everything turns white and you can't see shit and you're in a cloud up a mile in the sky by yourself. |
1:11.3 | It's pretty insane. |
1:12.7 | And there's a concept in paragliding, I think with flight in general called the pilot and command. |
1:19.2 | And what this means is, like, if you're learning to paraglide and you're 200 feet in the air and your instructor gets on the radio. |
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