Jac Harrison - DMT Inspired Music: How DMT Mimics The Near-Death Experience
Psychedelics Today
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2019
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Kyle sits down with Jac Harrison, a grammy nominated music producer. Kyle and Jac talk about music as therapy, how DMT mimics the near death experience, and how Jac produces music based on frequencies of mystical experiences.
3 Key Points:
- Jac shares his story about his near death experience, and how DMT has been a therapeutic option for him to cope with his crippling anxiety and PTSD.
- Jac is a music producer, who uses frequencies from mystical experiences to produce music. His music helps people with addiction, sleep issues, anxiety, and more.
- Music is not an FDA approved medicine, but if there is music that tricks your mind into thinking you have taken a medicine, then it should be an option for those suffering.
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Show Notes
About Jac
- In 2008, Jac was newly married with a baby on the way
- He needed a new job, and accepted one with Whole Foods Magazine
- Around 2011, the owner of the company became ill, and gave his company to his daughter, who was awful
- Jac said that he knew something had to change
- He started his music career, went under a lot of stress, and went through a divorce
- Everything started to go okay with his music career, money was pouring in
- His first album was Musicians Collection Project
- He had a ton of anxiety after the divorce, and had high blood pressure
- He took some cold medicine, on top of his blood pressure medicine, totally forgot about it, then decided to have a glass of wine with a friend
- The next thing he knew, he was in an ambulance getting his chest pounded on
- They told him he was in and out all night, and practically died
- After this near death experience, he felt amazing!
- But the feeling of greatness only lasted about 3 weeks, and then his anxiety came back, and it was crippling
A Synchronistic Event
- Jac says he doesn't believe in magic or witchcraft or any woo woo
- For his 39th birthday, he was working a trade show
- He ran around his hotel in Las Vegas, screaming that he felt he was going to die
- He didn't know how, but he could feel it
- Everyone thought he was crazy
- Moments later, was the shooting right outside of his hotel
- It was the Las Vegas shooting
- He does believe in coincidence
- He had this overwhelming feeling that something bad was going to happen, it was his intuition
Understanding the Experience
- After trying to figure out what this all meant, he took a 2000mg bar of chocolate to blast off, trying to relive his near death experience
- He said, there was a lot of frequency, and as a musician, he felt like he could mimic it
- His first album, and first song on the album, Relief, was about his experience when he died
- His music is found at MindToyBox
- Each song he did after that, catalogs the DMT experience he had
- "An old projector TV, I had one for a while, it was great. The light came on and told me I needed to change the bulb. I changed the bulb and saw in a new and clear way forever. That's what DMT is like." - Jac
- Kyle says that when he attended COSM for the DMT Spirit Molecule release party, Rick Strassman was there and said that the idea that DMT comes out of the pineal gland is just a hypothesis, and people took it and ran with it as truth
Frequency for Healing
- After he smoked DMT, he heard this humming, and so he started humming and recording it as a frequency for the album
- He took opium, and then figured out the frequency that substance performs at
- He wrote music, based on the mathematical equation on how opium works and releases
- He says it has helped others detox off of opium
- Jac cant take mushrooms because he is allergic, so he takes DMT
- Jac worked with a man who had gone through a ton of trauma, he had gone through combat
- He kept reliving his combat trauma when he would try to go asleep
- He smoked DMT, and really relived the experience, and was able to let go of it after that
- "Your mind is a bitch." - Jac
- "If you can lock onto a memory, and dissociate it with something, and re-associate it with something else, Every time you can go back to that memory,you can relive it in a way that it's tolerable, and get over it." - Jac
- Jac says without this, he would not be able to function, and he would be institutionalized
- Jac's music is Alex Grey's form of art creation
- It is made to go with journeywork experiences
- It is supposed to mimic taking a pill, so you don't need to take the actual pill
- It is supposed to guide people when taking different psychedelics
- His tracks match the frequency of specific psychedelics
Malta Hypogeum
- The Malta Hypogeum, the oracle chamber, is a cave with naturally occurring frequencies
- Raymond Reif is an underestimated person in history
- He beat cancer using frequencies in the 30's and 40's
- "If we're not going to someone to get drugs for something that we need drugs for, and solving our problems using plant based medicines, music therapy, and frequencies, we are much better off." - Jac
- Jac came across psychedelics when trying to treat crippling anxiety
- Kyle is the first person he has told this NDE story to
- Alzheimers is not a neurological problem, it's a perception problem
- Psychedelic medicine should be used for research to treat cognitive health problems, PTSD, alzheimers, etc
- "If the earth gives us something for our body, we should be able to take that at the same time we are able to take modern medicine." - Jac
- Jac says that he started doing this type of work as more of an Atheist, and after the psychedelic experiences, he says he has become more spiritual
Intuition
- Jac says that his intuition and discernment came after his near death experience
- Kyle says that this happens after mystical experiences, we become more in tune with what is going on around us
- "I believe that we have something in us, that is triggered, when we have a fear of death." - Jac
Final thoughts
- Jac recommends Relief as the first track for listeners
- He extends himself to people who are heavily anxious, have severe PTSD, or depressed, to come to him, and he will make music for them
- He said that this is not medicine, but if there is music that tricks your mind into thinking you have taken a medicine, then it should be an option for those suffering
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About Jac Harrison

Having spent most of his adolescent life medicated to treat ADD/ADHD, Jac developed a dependency on the medications and could not function without them. When he stopped using them, his anxiety was so bad that he was diagnosed with PTSD in 2009; so he took his love for music with his understanding of mathematics and developed music to help himself get off all the medication. Mind Toy Box is the result of his work.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Psychedelic Day, a weekly podcast exploring the science and culture of the emerging psychedelic field with your host, Kyle Buller and Joe Moore. |
| 0:20.1 | Today on the show, we are joined by Jack Harrison. |
| 0:22.9 | Jack Harrison, born Sean McCormick, is a Grammy-nominated American music producer, |
| 0:28.5 | studio musician, songwriter, and media personality that is best known for his syndicated |
| 0:33.5 | radio program, Gear Guys, that ran from January 2009 to October in 2017. |
| 0:41.4 | Jack is also known for his work for developing a mathematical, frequented-based music |
| 0:47.0 | that is used as a therapy to treat people with cognitive health issues and PTSD. |
| 0:53.7 | Jack is also a third generation performing |
| 0:56.3 | slash recording artist and comes from a lineage of musicians and artists. So it's really awesome. |
| 1:04.5 | So I kick off this interview with a little bit of background about how Jack and I got connected |
| 1:10.5 | and why we wanted to sit down |
| 1:12.6 | and do an interview. |
| 1:14.1 | But ironically, Jack lives in New Jersey and I live in New Jersey as well. |
| 1:17.7 | And we made contact over a Facebook message and talking about near death experiences and the DMT experience. |
| 1:29.8 | And Jack has a studio, |
| 1:35.0 | because he's a studio musician at his house, and got to sit down and record this episode at his house, which was really awesome. And thanks, Jack, for also doing some editing on this |
| 1:39.0 | podcast as well. So in this episode, Jack and I chat about his experience with, uh, near death experience |
| 1:46.3 | and integrating that experience into music, which is really cool. Um, and also some experiences |
| 1:53.7 | that he had with, uh, psychedelics and DMT and the work that he's doing with music. And music's a huge part of the psychedelic experience, |
| 2:03.2 | I feel like, especially, you know, when we're doing psychedelic therapy. So it's a, you know, |
| 2:08.5 | I think it's a big component within the therapeutic process. And it's also a huge part of |
| 2:14.5 | breathwork. I mean, when we run workshops, music is an essential part. It's one of the core |
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