J6 One Year Later, Ep 3: It’s Us Against Them

Straight White American Jesus

Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

News, Politics

4.7 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Brad interviews Phil Gorski, Professor of Sociology at Yale, and the author of the new co-authored book with Sam Perry, The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to Democracy. Gorski breaks down how the rioters thought about the Insurrection–it was not about right or wrong. It was about us vs them. This explains how the various spiritualities on display at J6 worked to form a coalition of forces even if they don’t all have the same worldview. It also explains the function of religious symbols, rituals, and dress on display that day. They all worked to tell a story of one team trying to overtake another. The discussion finishes with Gorski explaining how the Reformation and the wars that followed it are a good comparison point for our current situation. The breakdown of authority, the transmission of information, and the individualism of our time resonate with the Reformation period and portend difficult days ahead. Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus episodes, ad-free listening, access to the entire 500-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/StraightWhiteJC Order Brad's new book: https://www.amazon.com/Preparing-War-Extremist-Christian-Nationalism/dp/1506482163 SWAJ Apparel is here! https://straight-white-american-jesus.creator-spring.com/listing/not-today-uncle-ron To Donate: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/BradleyOnishi Venmo: @straightwhitejc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:50.9	Welcome to Straight White American Jesus.
0:52.7	My name is Brad Oñishi, faculty at the University of San Francisco, our show assistant
0:56.6	partnership with the CAHPS Center at UCSB.
1:00.4	And today I have an amazing guest for our ongoing series, J6, one year later, and that
1:06.7	is Dr. Phil Gorsky.
1:07.7	I'm going to introduce Phil in a minute, but let me just first say Phil, thanks for taking
1:11.6	the time to be here.
1:13.0	I'm always happy to talk with you, Brad.
1:16.2	So Dr. Gorsky, Phil is a professor of sociology at Yale University, has been writing about
1:23.4	a lot of the things we're going to discuss today for quite some time is the distinguished
1:27.8	sociologists in the field.
1:30.3	Sometimes friends, I get to email folks who, before I started this show, I looked up to
1:36.5	as sort of, you know, idols in the field and for me, it's always just an amazing thrill
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