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This is Michael Cohen and you're listening to the Mayor Culpa podcast.

Earlier this week, the Atlantic released a video that showed Donald Trump uttering the five words he has refused to say for over a year.

I didn't win the election.

What may seem an obvious statement to any remotely sane American has nonetheless become the crux of his dangerous and destructive attempts to overturn the 2020 election.

So even as former President Trump has continued to push the big lie in reality,

he knows he did not win the 2020 election.

Speaking to a group of historians last summer, the former president admitted more than once to losing the race to Joe Biden.

By not winning the election, but when I didn't win the election, and when the election was rigged and lost.

The admission came in a video interview with a panel of historians convened by Julian Zellzer,

a Princeton professor and editor of the presidency of Donald Trump, a first historical assessment.

The interview was published on Monday by the Atlantic.

Writing for the Atlantic, Zellzer said Trump was the one who had decided to reach out to a group of professional historians so that we produced an accurate book.

In reality, he had convened the group in the hopes that he could get them to offer a reapprisal that his presidency was anything but a raging dumpster fire and an abject failure going down as the worst in history.

This is a person before and after the presidency concerned with shaping the way that we see him and understand him.

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