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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm here in New York City at Vox Media Headquarters.

I'm here with Vivek Shaw. Did they get your name right? You did? Well done. CEO of J2 Global, a company you probably have not heard of. I've heard of it. You've heard of it. Formerly CEO of Zipf Davis Media, a company you may have heard of. It may be confusing with other people. Viveka is someone that I wanted to bring on for a while because he's doing something sort of counter to a lot of other media companies. He's been in the news on and off the last couple years because he was going to buy Gawker Media at one point, did buy Mashable. I'm assuming maybe you're in the market for other distressed assets. We're always in the market.

We can talk about that.

Let's set the stage.

Explain what J2 Global is.

So J2 is a $4 billion, publicly traded, internet information and services company.

So to your point, maybe not everyone in your audience has heard of J2, but you've

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