Hey friend welcome to the mere Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner. How does the

gospel influence the work of mere Christians. Those of us who aren't

pastors or religious professionals, but who work as cops and floor layers and

auditors. That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to Jay Warner Wallace.

He's a cold case homicide detective frequently featured on Dateline and the author of some big books such as cold-case

Christianity chronicling how God used his skills as a detective to come to faith in Jesus Christ.

Jim and I recently sat down to talk about the significance of God's word calling government officials quote unquote

ministers, how the fruit of the spirit outed Jim as a Christian

on the police force and what a California jury proceeding can teach you about the veracity of the resurrection. I think you guys are going to love

this conversation with my new friend Jim Wallace.

J Warner Wallace, Welcome to the Mir Christians podcast.

Can I call you Jim?

Of course, thanks for having me.

I appreciate it.

What made you want to be a homicide detective?

I didn't think I was going to be.

I was not quite sure where.

Look, I was raised by a cop who worked homicide for years.

So I was familiar with it, and when I was a high schooler,

I dabbled in it, the I had a police explorer program.

I did well in it in terms of like through the academy.

But it just wasn't like who I was

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