This is the Katoro Daily Podcast for Monday, July 22nd, 2004 and Caleb Brown.

In some ways the tide is turning against support for a welcoming immigration system.

Donald Trump has made his choice for Vice President a consistent opponent of immigration,

Ohio Senator JD Vance.

Caters David Beer evaluates Vance on Immigration and offers a bit of hope for the more

pro-immigration set of policies that may be to come in the longer term. Where do Americans stand on immigration broadly right now?

Gallup just released a new poll this week that shows that a majority of Americans want to see

immigration restricted for the first time since the mid 1990s.

And so it's a pretty stark turnaround,

even from last year it was you know far below almost 15 points below where it is this year and so

it's a pretty dramatic change from a few years ago when the share who wanted to see an increase under

Trump was trending up rapidly to the percentage you wanted an increase was pretty

much equal to the percentage you wanted a decrease in immigration under the Trump administration and in 2019,

20, and then it's kind of diverged sharply, particularly in the last year.

So there was a slight change, slight increase

in wanting more restriction under the first couple

of years of

of this year is kind of a unprecedented shift in a single year.

Now part of that I suppose we can understand as at least during the Trump years a

reaction to Trump that is to say a lot of

Democrats in particular switched their positions. They were more

relatively more free trade, relatively more pro-immigrant, and the

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