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Hey everybody, it's Nihai from The Vertcast. This week on the interview episode, I'm very excited

about this. We have Ivy Ross, who is Google's VP of design, all hardware design, and Rishi Chandra,

who's VP of home and nest. So Google just had a big event. They put out the home hub,

the new Pixel phones, the Pixel Slate. I talked to Ivy about Google's design language,

how it's evolved, where she wants it to go, how she wants it to be more human. We did talk about

the notch, just a little bit, had to do it. Then Ivy had to go and Rishi and I hung out,

we talked about the home hub, how it works, privacy issues, what platforms he's running, the future of

these devices in the home, where he thinks it's all going. A super interesting conversation.

I've known Rishi for a long time, so that was really fun. Ivy is a true delight, so smart.

I think you're really going to like this. It's kind of the weeds, but it's a good time. Check it out.

Okay, I'm here with Ivy Ross, who is VP of Hardware Design at Google, and Rishi Chandra,

who's VP of home and nest. I'm super excited about her here. Welcome.

Thank you. Thank you. I want to talk to both of you about a lot of things. Rishi, I'm just

going to tell you right now, we're going to have a long conversation about Google Cast versus

Android Things, which I know you're going to enjoy so much. Google just had an event. You announced

a bunch of hardware products. I want to start with you because the design of Google products,

which you oversee, has matured so rapidly over the course of the past two or three years.

I really want to get a sense of where you picked it up as you took over that group,

where you think you are and where you think you're going. Just give me a quick history.

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