Hello to all my old punk rockers and weird little breweries.

It's beautiful and honest one hour, one phone call, no names, no holds thought.

Hi everybody, Chris Getherd here. Welcome to another episode of beautiful

anonymous. So happy to be talking to you. So happy to be sharing conversations.

One conversation at a time, one human at a time. That feels so lucky to do this.

Thanks to everybody who supports me when they get out there on the road.

ChrisGeth.com is the website. We've got shows coming up in Jersey, in July, and

Brooklyn in August, Oklahoma, Dallas, San Antonio, a little later in August, and

always more shows being announced along your way, including a very special show in

Ani. I'm California in September. Keep an eye out for that one. Keep your ears open for that.

Okay, this week's call is, it's a really tough one. It's a, I think a lot of our

listeners would agree. One of the topics that is still so stigmatized, especially in

the United States, is fertility. It is something that we don't talk about enough. It's

something that a lot of people deal with hardship and pain in relation to, but we are trained

to keep it quiet and not say much and keep it hidden. And this caller is pushing back

against that so hard in this call. Tell us about what this journey was like. Tell us

about that stigma. Tell us about people's opinions. Tell us about people who say hurtful

things without realizing it. Tell us about costs. Tell us about the judgment of not just

people in her personal life, even medical people. It's, it's a really raw, honest look at

an experience that a lot of people go through that can be quite difficult, but that's still

hard to talk about. Personally, I think it shouldn't be. I think it's one of the stigmas

that we have to tear down. I think this caller is doing her part to see that happen. It's

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