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The Good Fight

Ivan Krastev on 2026

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Ivan Krastev is the chairman of the Centre for Liberal Strategies and Albert Hirschman Permanent Fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences, IWM Vienna. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Ivan Krastev discuss international reactions to the Trump administration, Europe’s weaknesses, and the impact of changing demographics worldwide. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google X: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Yascha Mounk, Persuasion LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:14.9

In a strange way, the most interesting story about the Trumpian revolution, because they have the energy,

0:21.6

they have the anger, but there is no future project.

0:26.6

And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.

0:34.6

Look, I always do my best here to try and tell you what's coming up in this conversation to give you some orientation, but some conversations are just impossible to summarize.

0:44.3

And that is nearly always the case with one of my absolute favorite podcast guest, Ivan Kastaf.

0:51.7

Ivan is a permanent fellow at the Institute for Humane Sciences in Vienna,

0:57.0

where I'm also a non-resident fellow this year.

1:00.3

He is the founder of the Central Liberal Strategies in Sophia.

1:03.9

And as you will know, if you've listened to past episodes with him,

1:06.7

he is just one of the most interesting generative thinkers in the world.

1:10.3

And so I thought I should have him on towards the end of 2025 to pass this year in review,

1:17.3

to try and help us, help orient us in understanding what state the world is in and what we might expect for 2026.

1:25.2

We talked about Trump and how his revolutionary administration may or may not be

1:31.3

getting its gears sanded up. We're talking about the state of Europe and how it can respond to this

1:39.1

moment. We talk about China and why it is that the world seems to be getting accustomed to the idea that

1:47.0

China may be the preeminent power of the next decades.

1:51.0

We talk about 17 other super interesting things.

1:54.0

Believe me, just listen to this damn conversation.

1:57.0

Now, in the last part of this conversation, we talk about artificial intelligence. It's one of the areas where we have an interesting disagreement. Ivan is saying that the prospect of AI is hanging over this political moment and really influencing people's actions really leading to a lot of anxiety, even as it hasn't had that big an impact on the world yet. I kind of take the opposite stand. I think it's actually starting to change the world in big ways, but a lot of people are in denial about it, and it's striking to what extent it hasn't yet reshaped our politics. So that's an interesting disagreement that we get into, and then Yvonne makes his predictions for what the future holds in 2026. You won't want to miss that part of the conversation.

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