Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure – and a New Insider coming forward

That UFO Podcast

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Religion & Spirituality, Science, Other, Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Documentary

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🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Summary

🎙️ Pre-order Andy’s new book Atlas of UFOs now: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs

In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.

We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.

Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
Meeting Lue Elizondo
The Controversial Congressional Briefing
Mistakes in public
Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act
Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure
Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence
Government Accountability and Ufology

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