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In The Thick

ITT Sound Off: Bad Optics

In The Thick

Futuro Media

News, Politics

4.9 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Julio and guest co-host Renée Graham, opinion columnist and associate editor at The Boston Globe, get into the implications of classified documents found at President Biden’s home and former office. They also talk about the severe storms and flooding that have impacted California over the last few weeks and the growing pressure on the Biden administration to expel Brazil’s former president Jair Bolsonaro, who has been staying in Florida.

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  • Jonathan Guyer interviews Rodrigo Nunes, a Brazilian philosophy scholar, about Bolsonarismo and its root causes in this piece for Vox.

Photo credit: AP Photo/Andrew Harnik, File

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Futuro Media and PRX, it's In The Thick, I'm Julio Ricalo-Varela.

0:14.4

And I'm René Grant and this is ITT Sound off.

0:18.5

René Graham of the Boston Globe, welcome back Maria's out and about in the Caribbean

0:26.9

and so happy that you're with us.

0:29.4

Well, it sounds lovely to be in the Caribbean, but I'm really happy to be here.

0:32.6

Yeah, we got a lot to break down, so let's get to it with our first topic, which I never

0:39.8

thought I would say this, but I'm going to say it, Biden's classified documents.

0:46.7

Here we go.

0:47.7

What aboutism?

0:48.7

Hmm.

0:49.7

Now we can like, bring it on.

0:51.8

So CBS News reported this week that classified documents were found at the Penn Biden Center

0:58.8

for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, that's in D.C., which is an institute president

1:03.9

Biden started after his vice presidential term.

1:08.3

So that happened, but days later we learned that Biden's legal team found additional classified

1:14.6

documents at, I think it was in his garage in Delaware.

1:19.5

So it was also reported that the first batch was found on November 2nd, and the second

1:25.9

was discovered by Biden's team on December 20th.

1:30.3

So the Biden administration said they immediately notified the Justice Department both times,

1:35.5

and on Thursday, Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel, Robert

1:41.4

Herr, to investigate the matter.

1:45.7

As you know, if anyone is following this story, there were immediate comparisons with the

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