Hey, what's up? It's a Friday edition of In The Thick. I'm Marianne Josa.

And I'm Houdio Ricardo Guarela. Hey, what's up?

I guess we should call it what it is. It's the ITT extra. What's up?

Julio. It's good to hear your voice as always yeah it's been stuck in airports I hate it but anyway

So I just want to tell you what my husband said to me this morning when I finally got home because they canceled the flight

last night blah blah blah and I get home this morning and you know we do a quick

check in on the politics of the moment and I've been listening to several

podcasts and my husband says you know you know that Michael cone it looks like he took

lessons from all of the corrupt governments in Latin America on how exactly you

deal with corruption and how it's done and I looked at him and I was like yeah

even though we know it's not true but I did have a moment of just like we are not

exceptional in this country you know it funny, it's a very good observation.

I also talked to a friend in the pharmaceutical industry this week during my son's baseball game

and was like, what is Novartis doing to our industry?

Like, that's the talk in the industry right now.

People were like, are you kidding me, Novartis?

Every one of those corporations, oh my God.

It's crazy, but I love your husband's take on it all. But listen, have you heard there's a DACA update, Maria?

Oh, I don't know, I just, my heart kind of sinks every time this happens but all right give us the

update and then we'll all right this is where we insert the heart sinking sound

effects let's insert them because it's for real so listen for people I've been

following DACA just a refresher Trump he made an announcement to counsel the program,

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