Hello and welcome to the In The Pen podcast, a podcast about relievers part of the Pitcherless Podcast Network.

My name is Jake Crumpler, and as always, I'm joined by pitcherless, bullpen expert Rick Graham.

Rick, how's it going?

It's going.

We got spring training games going on right now.

And I have not really not putting too much talking to anything yet, especially, you know, I know there's a lot of Velo talk already.

And it's not even March yet.

So I don't, you know, let's, let's give it until March at least and

see where things are at.

But still, you know, you're still seeing some guys throwing new pitches, trying out new things,

new, whatever.

So it's still baseball.

And, you know, that's where we're one step closer to the regular season starting. And we're right in the middle of draft season. It's, you know, it's still baseball and and you know that's where we're one step closer to the regular season starting

and we're right in the middle of draft season it's you know it's that time of year it is i had my

first draft last weekend uh drafted in barf and we were talking about it before we jumped on but

really struggled to lock down a secure closer.

I got Griffin Jacks at 103, which was a huge min, but I read you all the draft positions

of all the other relievers before him, and you seemed very surprised.

Yeah, I mean, that's, and especially so for those who don't know, I mean, it's the same

format as TGfbi or same

scoring sustained 15 team roto i i and yeah you're you're saying how a couple guys at the

20s a lot in the 30s and 40s these closers going um yeah like bednar was in the top 50 650 i

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