Italy's Five Star Movement: A well executed punchline or a comedy of errors?
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The Times
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🗓️ 14 May 2021
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Italy's Five Star Movement, a political party co-founded by comedian Beppe Grillo in 2009, promised radical change by putting citizens back in control of politics. Today the party is facing problems. Will this populist force change course or will it continue with its anti-establishment agenda?
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| 0:00.0 | Imagine you, you in a nice comfy seat with your hands behind your head, taking in the views, |
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| 0:30.0 | Italy, 2007 |
| 0:39.5 | In the midst of a lively stand-up routine, a portly middle-aged comedian spies an elderly gentleman |
| 0:45.7 | making a beeline for the Pat Auditorium Exit. The comedian, Bepi Grillo, agrees to distract |
| 0:56.0 | the audience while the old man escapes in search of the Lou. It's a great comic routine, |
| 1:01.9 | but not quite what you'd expect from someone about to found a political party that would go on to |
| 1:07.4 | turn Italian politics on its head. This was the genius of Bepi Grillo's that he was able to |
| 1:12.6 | attract both left and right at the beginning, so the green policies would bring in the left, |
| 1:18.5 | but at the same time there was a hint of right-wing populism there. |
| 1:22.9 | But now, why are the balloons popping for the party that promised such radical change? |
| 1:29.6 | You're listening to stories of our times and the times and the Sunday times. |
| 1:32.8 | I'm David Aronovich. Today, Italy's five-star movement, a well-executed punchline |
| 1:39.3 | or a comedy of errors. |
| 1:45.2 | It suddenly got hot and sunny here. The parks are full of people running around if they've never |
| 1:50.1 | seen a sunny day before. That's Tom Kington, our Italian correspondent at the Times. |
| 1:55.1 | Tom's been following the extraordinary career of Bepi Grillo and his impossible five-star |
| 2:00.0 | movement from day one. Now, with the movement in big trouble, what can he tell us about this clown |
| 2:07.1 | turned power broker? He was a risk-taking, law-cus comic to the point that he got himself banned from |
| 2:16.4 | Italy's state TV network in 1987 after making a risque joke about government corruption. |
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