The shroud is an image of a crucified man with wounds that correspond to the brutality that Jesus of Nazareth experienced.

So why do you think it's real?

They cannot explain how the image is in the shroud.

This is brand new for your program. I'm publishing right now with an archaeologist and what I'm about to share.

Do you have your phone with you by chance?

Yes, I do. I want you to do an exercise on camera with me if you don't mind.

Okay. Look at the face of the shroud right here.

Every few years there's a news headline that we've discovered what Jesus looked like.

And every time the left-wing media put up some picture of basically a gorilla, and they try to

pretend to us that that is our lord. But there is an answer to all of

these headlines, namely that we might already know what Jesus looked like because we have

his burial cloth, the shroud of Turin. When I was a boy, I was told the shroud of Turin was

totally debunked. And then the debunking got debunked.

And I'm not an expert in any of this, but my guest today, Dr. Jeremiah Johnston, is an expert.

And we have not the original.

That would be very impressive.

But this is impressive enough.

We have a full-scale copy of the Shrad of Torin. Jeremiah, thank you for being here.

Michael, you're a warrior for truth. I love your program, and I'm just excited. We have breaking news to

cover. We have a lot, and we have some delicious details for the audience. So people better get ready

and buckle up. I can't wait. Also, you've been very kind to give me your book, Body of Proof,

the seven best reasons to believe in the resurrection of Jesus and why it matters today, which you can go get. You have all sorts of goodies that you've brought here. So I want to take it from the top. When I was a kid, I first of all thought the Shrout of Turin was just a Catholic thing. I didn't occur to me. You know, a lot of my Protestant friends, they don't, they're not that into relics, they're not that

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