Welcome to Bombshell. This is Erin Simpson. This is Frada Iyengar. And this is Lauren D. Youngshelman. And we have a very special

anniversary episode for all of you. For he's a jolly good fellow.

So we have been doing this for one year, ladies.

We sure have.

And to mark the occasion, we're going to talk to some men.

If we must.

Do you think anybody noticed that we haven't done that in the last year?

I think they might have.

It's just really hard to find men who are national security experts. Actually, if people have recommendation. We actually

called, but they were never available. Right. If they could send us a list,

but we would lose it. And then maybe a binder. Oh, they could moderate a panel, maybe. Yeah,

that'd be great. So today, we're going to talk to three of our biggest fans. First up, and I really can't tell you how excited we are about this. Kai Risdahl from Marketplace is going to join us. I'm going to resist to literally squeam. I literally fainted right now. After that, Frank Gavin is going to join us and talk about keeping up foreign relations. And then Ben Wittes from the Lawfare blog and Brookings is going to join us and talk about keeping up foreign relations. And then Ben Wittes from the

Lawfare blog and Brookings is going to talk about White House mayhem. So we brought on,

if you have any mail, Twitter, or actual national security crashes, we're bringing them to the

table. I guess that's fine for a one-time thing. One-time, one-night only. And we are taking advice from

the rational security folks and adopting the actual day, not evening drinking, not even late

afternoon drinking. Just for our listeners, we've started rather early today. What are we drinking,

Roda? What did you find in a corner shop? First of all, I'd just like to note that although I am

recording this in

person with you guys, it is actually three hours earlier for my body. So I'm really taking one

for the team here. And we are drinking a pink rosé sparkling wine from Napa. I think it's

from 7-Eleven. But whatever you say, Napa via the liquor store down the street perfect perfect we're very excited about

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