And we are back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kiddell,

senior elections correspondent at The Federalist and your experience Sherpa on today's quest for

knowledge. As always, you can email the show at radio at thefederalist.com. Follow us on

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podcast and, of course, to the premium version of our website as well. Our guest today is

Michael Gonzalez, senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation on why the vestigial NPR and PBS

must be defunded.

Good morning, Mike.

Thank you so much for joining us on this edition of the Federal Estate Radio Hour.

Good morning, Matt.

It's entirely my pleasure to be here.

It's great to have you here, especially after this,

I think an important topic.

And I think this hearing last week before the House Doge committee, a subcommittee,

the Department of the Government Efficiency, subcommittee hearing, I think it really did do a lot

to expose NPR public broadcasting for, I think folks like you would say for the fraud it is, you testified

and you had some very engaging testimony before that hearing. You come from a journalist

background many years before joining the Heritage Foundation. This is some of your testimony.

You said, journalists can keep their prejudices in check if they want to.

Do you believe that NPR and PBS have kept their prejudices in check?

No, absolutely not.

And they haven't for years.

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