It’s OK to Be Optimistic. Really. (with Monica Gandhi)

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

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4.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Bob calls up Monica Gandhi, infectious diseases and HIV doctor at UCSF, to talk about why she’s feeling optimistic at this moment in the pandemic. They discuss why her optimism hasn’t waned despite the fourth wave, the variants, and the CDC Director’s feeling of “impending doom.” Plus, why it’s so hard for places like the CDC to balance optimism and caution in how they advise the public.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Keep up with the CDC’s latest recommendations for fully vaccinated people: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
Check out this Atlantic article about the fourth surge that Monica mentions in today’s episode: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/fourth-surge-variant-vaccine/618463/
Read this CDC study looking at the real-world effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm
This article suggests vaccines might reduce viral load (and thereby suppress transmission of COVID-19): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7
Check out David Leonhardt’s article on the US media’s obsession with bad news: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/24/briefing/boulder-shooting-george-segal-astrazeneca.html
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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1:02.6	Welcome to In the Bubble.
1:03.6	I'm Dr. Bob Wachter.
1:05.7	Well it looks like we're starting something of a fourth wave.
1:10.3	We feared this might happen.
1:11.9	We hoped it wouldn't.
1:12.9	If you remember, we talked for the last several months about March being this race between
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1:20.8	It looks like the race is sort of a dead heat with vaccines winning in many parts of the
1:27.3	country.
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